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For those who don’t know RAPTOR++, it is a tool that combine the ratings of each player (70%) and his efficiency in game (30%). Their capacities are weighted in order to value good rebounding for bigs for example.
The % in game is also considered in the ratings which probably change the balance from 70/30 to 60/40.

The tool premiere objective is to evaluate players value when it comes to trade or free agency. It has it flaws with defensive aspects not taken into consideration (%STP, PA/SF)
However, I believe it bring a good overview in general and was well received last year by the league.
I decided not to include team record since I like to compare the players over the years.

2017 - Zach Lavine - Boston_Celtics : 15.5pts, 46%, 3.4ast, 3.4rbd, 0.3stl, 0.6blk in 29.8min / EVAL: 75.4
2016 - Zach Lavine - Washington_Wizards : 11.8pts, 41%, 3.2ast, 2.6rbd, 0.4stl, 0.5blk in 26.6min / EVAL: 68.4
2015 - Zach Lavine - Indiana_Pacers : 9.6pts, 39%, 4.4ast, 2.9rbd, 0.2stl, 0.5blk in 25.4min / EVAL: 64.7
2014 - Zach Lavine - Orlando Magic : 10pts, 36%, 3.7ast, 3rbd, 0.3stl, 0.5blk in 26.7min / EVAL: 63.1


Filter : A player has to play more than 20 minutes a game and at least 50 games to be eligible.

Here we go for the Top10 ranking by position - final edition of the season!

Point Guard

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Desite a great season for John Wall, no playoffs this year

#1 - Kyrie Irving - Cleveland_Cavaliers : 29.1pts, 47%, 6.3ast, 4.4rbd, 1.2stl, 0.7blk in 35.6min / EVAL: 90.7
#2 - Kemba Walker - Detroit_Pistons : 23.9pts, 46%, 4.3ast, 4.3rbd, 2.6stl, 0.6blk in 33.5min / EVAL: 88.8
#3 - John Wall - Washington_Wizards : 24.9pts, 47%, 6.3ast, 4.6rbd, 2.3stl, 0.8blk in 38.3min / EVAL: 88.2
#4 - Russell Westbrook - Boston_Celtics : 24pts, 46%, 4.7ast, 3.9rbd, 1.4stl, 0.3blk in 29.6min / EVAL: 87.9
#5 - Eric Bledsoe - Phoenix_Suns : 19.7pts, 45%, 5.1ast, 4.5rbd, 2.2stl, 1.3blk in 32min / EVAL: 85.9
#6 - Stephen Curry - Golden_State_Warriors : 20.3pts, 47%, 5.7ast, 3.9rbd, 1stl, 0.1blk in 32.9min / EVAL: 84.1
#7 - Derrick Rose - Chicago_Bulls : 22.5pts, 49%, 4.7ast, 3.4rbd, 0.7stl, 0.6blk in 32.2min / EVAL: 84.0
#8 - Jeremy Lin - Charlotte_Hornets : 17.3pts, 48%, 9.8ast, 4rbd, 1.7stl, 0.6blk in 35.8min / EVAL: 82.9
#9 - Damian Lillard - Utah_Jazz : 22.1pts, 45%, 6.8ast, 4.3rbd, 1stl, 0.4blk in 35min / EVAL: 82.1
#10 - Ty Lawson - Brooklyn_Nets : 19.1pts, 41%, 6ast, 3rbd, 1.5stl, 0blk in 32.9min / EVAL: 79.9


Behind (Paul, Cotton, Conley)

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#1 - James Harden - Houston_rockets : 29.2pts, 52%, 4.6ast, 4.8rbd, 1.4stl, 0.5blk in 31.6min / EVAL: 97.5
#2 - Paul George - Orlando_Magic : 29.6pts, 48%, 5.2ast, 9.2rbd, 1.8stl, 0.9blk in 37min / EVAL: 96.6
#3 - Dante Exum - Utah_Jazz : 21.1pts, 46%, 5.4ast, 5.2rbd, 1.9stl, 1.5blk in 35.6min / EVAL: 86.6
#4 - Klay Thompson - Charlotte_Hornets : 23pts, 47%, 3.8ast, 4.9rbd, 1.3stl, 0.6blk in 37.2min / EVAL: 81.6
#5 - Brandon Jennings - Toronto_Raptors : 13pts, 42%, 4.1ast, 2.7rbd, 0.8stl, 0.2blk in 23.9min / EVAL: 81.4
#6 - Dion Waiters - Los_Angeles_Clippers : 17.4pts, 44%, 3.3ast, 4rbd, 1.3stl, 0.5blk in 30.8min / EVAL: 80.5
#7 - Ben McLemore - Sacramento_Kings : 14.9pts, 47%, 1.4ast, 3.2rbd, 1.1stl, 0.5blk in 26.8min / EVAL: 79.5
#8 - Gary Harris - Memphis_Grizzlies : 14.2pts, 46%, 4.2ast, 3.5rbd, 1.6stl, 0.2blk in 30.2min / EVAL: 78.9
#9 - James Young - Detroit_Pistons : 13.2pts, 47%, 2.5ast, 2.7rbd, 0.8stl, 0.2blk in 22.2min / EVAL: 78.6
#10 - Monta Ellis - Atlanta_Hawks : 18.6pts, 44%, 6.4ast, 5.1rbd, 0.3stl, 0.2blk in 37.2min / EVAL: 78.1


Behind (Oladipo, Caldwell-Pope, Jackson)

Small Foward
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#1 - Kevin Durant - Portland_Trailblazers : 40.2pts, 49%, 5.6ast, 9.3rbd, 1.3stl, 1.3blk in 43.3min / EVAL: 98.2
#2 - Lebron James - Milwaukee_Bucks : 30.5pts, 53%, 5.3ast, 5.9rbd, 1stl, 0.6blk in 38.8min / EVAL: 97.5
#3 - Jabari Parker - Philadelphia_Sixers : 29.9pts, 48%, 1ast, 6.5rbd, 0.6stl, 0.3blk in 35.4min / EVAL: 86.1
#4 - Kawhi Leonard - Toronto_Raptors : 18.4pts, 49%, 1.4ast, 6rbd, 1.6stl, 0.8blk in 33min / EVAL: 82.4
#5 - Carmelo Anthony - Charlotte_Hornets : 19.6pts, 47%, 0.8ast, 5.4rbd, 0.8stl, 0.4blk in 27.4min / EVAL: 82.3
#6 - Evan Turner - Los_Angeles_Clippers : 12.1pts, 46%, 2.5ast, 5.1rbd, 1stl, 0.3blk in 23.2min / EVAL: 81.5
#7 - Otto Porter - Sacramento_Kings : 12.8pts, 46%, 1.7ast, 5rbd, 2.2stl, 0.9blk in 28.9min / EVAL: 80.4
#8 - Chandler Parsons - Los_Angeles_Lakers : 17.1pts, 45%, 3.7ast, 4.5rbd, 1.4stl, 0.6blk in 31.6min / EVAL: 79.1
#9 - Andrew Wiggins - Charlotte_Hornets : 18.8pts, 46%, 1.3ast, 5.4rbd, 0.9stl, 1.3blk in 34min / EVAL: 77.2
#10 - Gordon Hayward - Miami_Heat : 18.4pts, 45%, 4.6ast, 5rbd, 1.2stl, 0.7blk in 34.6min / EVAL: 77.0


Behind (Antetokounmpo, Stephenson, Dekker)

Power Foward

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Best player of the league. Will he maintain his level during the playoffs?

#1 - Anthony Davis - New_Orleans_Pelicans : 28.8pts, 59%, 1.2ast, 10.1rbd, 1.2stl, 2.3blk in 31.5min / EVAL: 107.3
#2 - Blake Griffin - Indiana_Pacers : 25pts, 57%, 2.7ast, 9.3rbd, 1.3stl, 0.6blk in 32.9min / EVAL: 96.1
#3 - Al Horford - Chicago_Bulls : 17.5pts, 57%, 2.6ast, 9.2rbd, 0.7stl, 1.3blk in 30.2min / EVAL: 92.7
#4 - Greg Monroe - Milwaukee_Bucks : 22.4pts, 52%, 1.9ast, 12rbd, 1.1stl, 0.6blk in 36.2min / EVAL: 86.4
#5 - Kevin Love - New_York_Knicks : 19.4pts, 40%, 1.3ast, 11.7rbd, 0.9stl, 0.3blk in 35.7min / EVAL: 83.2
#6 - Josh Smith - Denver_Nuggets : 15.8pts, 51%, 2.5ast, 5.5rbd, 1.3stl, 1.1blk in 28.5min / EVAL: 82.9
#7 - Derrick Favors - Indiana_Pacers : 16.4pts, 51%, 1.2ast, 9.8rbd, 1.2stl, 2.2blk in 32.8min / EVAL: 82.5
#8 - Aaron Gordon - Brooklyn_Nets : 13.1pts, 54%, 1.1ast, 6.7rbd, 1stl, 1.7blk in 25.9min / EVAL: 82.5
#9 - Tristan Thompson - Detroit_Pistons : 16.2pts, 51%, 1.2ast, 9.1rbd, 1stl, 1.2blk in 31.5min / EVAL: 82.1
#10 - LaMarcus Aldridge - Utah_Jazz : 17.9pts, 49%, 1.3ast, 8.5rbd, 1.2stl, 1blk in 32.2min / EVAL: 82.0


Behind (Solomon, Payne, Austin)

Center

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#1 - Dwight Howard - Brooklyn_Nets : 17.2pts, 52%, 1.2ast, 10.7rbd, 1.4stl, 2.3blk in 30.8min / EVAL: 94.0
#2 - Kenneth Faried - Houston_rockets : 16pts, 56%, 1ast, 9.4rbd, 1.4stl, 1.3blk in 27.2min / EVAL: 90.4
#3 - DeMarcus Cousins - Orlando_Magic : 21.6pts, 49%, 0.8ast, 10rbd, 0.9stl, 0.7blk in 31.4min / EVAL: 89.3
#4 - Andre Drummond - Toronto_Raptors : 14.7pts, 58%, 1ast, 9.1rbd, 0.9stl, 2.2blk in 31min / EVAL: 86.0
#5 - Al Jefferson - Minnesota_Timberwolves : 21.4pts, 55%, 1ast, 8.2rbd, 1stl, 1.1blk in 35min / EVAL: 84.1
#6 - Walter Tavares - Dallas_Mavericks : 13.8pts, 57%, 0.8ast, 7.5rbd, 0.8stl, 1blk in 25.1min / EVAL: 84
#7 - Jonas Valanciunas - Atlanta_Hawks : 17.3pts, 49%, 1.2ast, 11.1rbd, 0.4stl, 1.5blk in 35.7min / EVAL: 79.5
#8 - Joakim Noah - Chicago_Bulls : 10.5pts, 44%, 1.6ast, 8.2rbd, 1.2stl, 2blk in 29.2min / EVAL: 78.1
#9 - Roy Hibbert - Miami_Heat : 10.2pts, 42%, 0.9ast, 8.4rbd, 0.6stl, 2.1blk in 27.6min / EVAL: 77.8
#10 - Brook Lopez - Minnesota_Timberwolves : 16.5pts, 49%, 1.2ast, 7.1rbd, 0.6stl, 1.6blk in 32.5min / EVAL: 77.7


Behind (Miller, Sanders, Plumlee)

Rookies

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The pick #53, steal of the draft 2017, in action

#1 - Sasha Kaun - Philadelphia_Sixers : 9.8pts, 51%, 0.8ast, 5.6rbd, 0.3stl, 1.3blk in 22.1min / EVAL: 73.6
#2 - Stanley Johnson Jr. - San_Antonio_Spurs : 14pts, 44%, 1.1ast, 6.6rbd, 0.6stl, 0.3blk in 28.3min / EVAL: 71.8
#3 - Cameron Payne - Golden_State_Warriors : 8pts, 44%, 4ast, 2.8rbd, 0.5stl, 0.1blk in 23.6min / EVAL: 68.3
#4 - Terry Rozier - Oklahoma_City_Thunder : 11.5pts, 38%, 4.6ast, 2.6rbd, 1.1stl, 0.2blk in 26.5min / EVAL: 67.0
#5 - Denzel Valentine - Oklahoma_City_Thunder : 11.6pts, 42%, 1.1ast, 3rbd, 0.5stl, 0.1blk in 24.4min / EVAL: 65.1
#6 - Jahlil Okafor - Dallas_Mavericks : 9.7pts, 41%, 0.8ast, 6rbd, 0.4stl, 0.8blk in 24.7min / EVAL: 64.4
#7 - Larry Nance Jr. - Dallas_Mavericks : 9.1pts, 42%, 1.2ast, 3.5rbd, 0.4stl, 0.4blk in 22.9min / EVAL: 63.4
#8 - DeAndre Bembry - Oklahoma_City_Thunder : 9.4pts, 42%, 1.2ast, 3.8rbd, 0.7stl, 0.6blk in 29.6min / EVAL: 58.2
#9 - Timothe Luwawu - Dallas_Mavericks : 6pts, 38%, 1.5ast, 2.9rbd, 0.3stl, 0.3blk in 20.6min / EVAL: 55.7
#10 - Malik Pope - Atlanta_Hawks : 5.5pts, 36%, 1.8ast, 4.6rbd, 0.6stl, 0blk in 31.9min / EVAL: 54.8
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Exceptional stuff as usually Chili

How did Gary Harris managed to sneak in to the top 10 at SG? Dude is exceptionally talented all-around and will be producing some big numbers next year.

Miller is also quite close there even though I got him to come off the bench for half a season.

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My favorite article, thanks for taking the time to do this series Chili!

Looks like Paul George and DeMarcus Cousins have some work to do to reclaim the #1 spots.

Challenge accepted!

Also has there ever been a player to have such an underrated great season yet still be disrespected as much as Damian Lillard?

Glad he gets to go up against the Pelicans.

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Dragic?
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Mattybriand wrote:Dragic?
He played only 40 games. he doesn't meet the requirements (minimum 50 games and 20 minutes by game)
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Man iBaka completely dropped off the list for the first time in his career. My bigs did poor this year and no love for Ricky and his top notch defense on these lists. Kemba tried his best to take off Kyrie but failed at the end.

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Good stuff, glad to see John Wall up there. Harden and KD are ridiculous lol. I need to figure out a way to get Enes Kanter to play more efficiently/consistently, as I feel if managed right, he can sneak into the top 10 center rankings.
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I'm gonna trade Rose, Noah and Horford. They dont belong here. They're too good for this team.
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Thanks for pointing out Valentine. He, Denver first and Zipser were my main targets in trading MKG. I knew Valentine was going to be solid, but never expected to put up what he did this season.

52nd Valentine> 10th Booker

The true rookie of the year is up in air. You look at Stanley Johnson, but once he went to the Spurs he actually disappointed and only went 12-6 in 28mpg.

Tough race for ROTY

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8timechamp wrote:Thanks for pointing out Valentine. He, Denver first and Zipser were my main targets in trading MKG. I knew Valentine was going to be solid, but never expected to put up what he did this season.

52nd Valentine> 10th Booker

The true rookie of the year is up in air. You look at Stanley Johnson, but once he went to the Spurs he actually disappointed and only went 12-6 in 28mpg.

Tough race for ROTY
Valentine was a real steal for you. I was waffling between him, Holmes, and a couple other guys with the 42nd pick. Wish I'd taken Valentine, since I've already traded off Holmes for very little.

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BizGilwalker wrote:
8timechamp wrote:Thanks for pointing out Valentine. He, Denver first and Zipser were my main targets in trading MKG. I knew Valentine was going to be solid, but never expected to put up what he did this season.

52nd Valentine> 10th Booker

The true rookie of the year is up in air. You look at Stanley Johnson, but once he went to the Spurs he actually disappointed and only went 12-6 in 28mpg.

Tough race for ROTY
Valentine was a real steal for you. I was waffling between him, Holmes, and a couple other guys with the 42nd pick. Wish I'd taken Valentine, since I've already traded off Holmes for very little.
Talking to Denver gm, he gave me the pick(any 2), between any of his 2nd round picks. I looked into all of them, but Valentine just popped out to me. I pushed to make the trade happen after I saw his potential, even though I had not scouted in my life at the time. He's going to be a very good 6th man. 77 scoring potential?! Like wow
I got lucky tbh.

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Valentine had a solid rookie season but lets remember he was on a 15-67 team. He didn't shoot it particularly well but he is a rookie so that may be expected. Lets see what happens in the next few seasons. Since his scoring rating is his primary strength, he needs to get that shooting % up to 45%+ to really be effective.
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Couple of our guys still hanging around but lower minutes means less production which lowers them here.
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bt wrote:Couple of our guys still hanging around but lower minutes means less production which lowers them here.
Actually the minutes doesn't affect the rating as I take the production by minute.
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andrei wrote:Valentine had a solid rookie season but lets remember he was on a 15-67 team. He didn't shoot it particularly well but he is a rookie so that may be expected. Lets see what happens in the next few seasons. Since his scoring rating is his primary strength, he needs to get that shooting % up to 45%+ to really be effective.
Yeah he was shooting 45% for most of the season then the last quarter of the season he shot like crap which lowered his percentages.
But like you said, it's to be expected since he is a rookie.

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Im missing Javale McGee! Any information about his ranking, Chili?
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Good job once again. Glad to make the playoffs. We haven't started well but I know that we are not ready to contend yet and that the Bulls aren't a good matchup for us. Hopefully we can make a step forward next season.
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