CSL StatStuff: Points per hundred Posessions
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CSL StatStuff: Points per hundred Posessions
KD and his Spurs are 23rd in points per game but 9th in Offensive Efficiency (Points per Hundred Posessions)
With a number of high scoring games occurring in CSL recently, we decided to have a quick look at where we are in CSL vs the NBA in terms of average points scored (PPG) and average points scored per hundred possessions (PPHP). The Strategy limitations introduced a few seasons ago are there precisely to keep CSL in line with the NBA and move away from teams averaging 120+ points per game.
(Last season's stats used for NBA)
Points per game is usually a good indication of team's ability to score but Points per 100 Posessions shows the team's ability to score efficiently.
What is a Posession? We found a number of simple and complex definitions. The easiest way to define it, however, is to have a look at the below formula:
Posession = FGA + 0.475 x FTA - ORB + TO
If you add the above numbers for each game you get the number of posessions per game. Simple multiplication with PPG will show the how many points the team scores per 100 possessions.
Good news is that we are on par with the real life. Below numbers compare the average League Points per game and Points per hundred possessions.
CSL PPG
103.5
NBA PPG
102.3
CSL PPHP
104.2
NBA PPHP
103.9
CSL is slightly higher in both stats with more teams playing some efficient offense in CSL compared to NBA.
....4 teams averaging 110+ PPHP in CSL and 2 in NBA
....16 teams averaging 105+ PPHP in CSL and 9 in NBA
....23 teams averaging 100+ PPHP in CSL and 27 in NBA
Perhaps the last point is an indication that CSL is somewhat behind NBA in parity. More teams in NBA averaging 100+ PPHP than CSL. With that in mind, we decided to calculate the Standard Deviation across the CSL and NBA to see if the two leagues are comparable.
For those unfamiliar, here is the definition of Standard Deviation:
In statistics, the standard deviation is a measure that is used to quantify the amount of variation or dispersion of a set of data values. A low standard deviation indicates that the data points tend to be close to the average of the set (i.e. High Parity), while a high standard deviation indicates that the data points are spread out over a wider range of values (i.e. Low Parity).
For CSL PPHP the Standard Deviation is 5.5 while for NBA it is 3.2. In terms of Points per game the Standard Deviation in CSL is 6.9 while it is only 3.5 in NBA.
Is this an indication that CSL is still struggling with parity compared to real life? Season is young though - lets see if this improves as we go along.
Below is a full set of numbers for both leagues sorted by PPHP
CSL
Team... PPHP... PPG
1 Houson 114.1 118.3
2 Phoenix 113.4 111.6
3 Orlando 111.3 108.1
4 Sacramento 110.9 108.6
5 New Orleans 109.4 110.4
6 Memphis 109.1 111.1
7 Boston 108.9 109.3
8 Chicago 108.2 106.6
9 San Antonio 108 98.4
10 Milwaukee 106.5 102.3
11 Philadelphia 106.5 106.7
12 Detroit 106.5 107.7
13 Utah 106.4 112.1
14 Atlanta 106.2 99.2
15 LA Lakers 105.5 103
16 Charlotte 105 112.8
17 Indiana 104 104.2
18 Wasington 103.7 97.8
19 Dallas 103.1 108
20 Golden State 102.2 99.7
21 Toronto 100.9 101.4
22 Brooklyn 100.4 101.9
23 Portland 99.9 102.4
24 Miami 99.7 98.4
25 Ocklahoma 98.9 99.3
26 New York 98.3 97.3
27 Denver 97.9 97.8
28 Cleveland 94.7 92.8
29 LA Clippers 93.4 92.2
30 Minnesota 92.7 86.4
NBA
Team... PPHP... PPG
1 Golden State 112.5 113.8
2 Oklahoma City 109.9 109.5
3 San Antonio 108.4 103.4
4 Cleveland 108.1 104.3
5 Toronto 107 100.9
6 LA Clippers 106.5 104.1
7 Portland 106.1 105.1
8 Houston 105.5 105.7
9 Charlotte 105.1 102.4
10 Dallas 104.8 101.8
11 Minnesota 104.3 102.4
12 Miami 104.2 99.6
13 Boston 103.9 104.9
14 Sacramento 103.3 106.6
15 Detroit 103.3 101.6
16 New Orleans 103.2 102.7
17 Utah 103.1 97.7
18 Atlanta 103 102.5
19 Washington 102.9 104.1
20 Denver 102.7 101.9
21 Orlando 102.6 102.1
22 Memphis 102.6 98.3
23 Indiana 102.4 101.5
24 Milwaukee 102.2 99
25 Chicago 102.1 101.6
26 New York 102 98.4
27 Brooklyn 100.9 98.6
28 Phoenix 99.4 100.9
29 LA Lakers 98.6 97.3
30 Philadelphia 96.6 97.4
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Great read and great effort and research put into this article.
Great that team-wise we are on par with real life NBA while I expect individually the scoring of Durant and Parker to lower during the course of the season.
Great that team-wise we are on par with real life NBA while I expect individually the scoring of Durant and Parker to lower during the course of the season.
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I'm actually amazed with being #1 right now. We've been playing at breakneck speed, have had a ton of minor injuries, and a number of our guys have struggled with their shots. I credit Brandon Knight for his stellar start. He's basically been a mini-Harden out there.
Love seeing advanced stats on here. Thanks for that Andrei
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If I hear Brandon Knight's name mentioned one more time, I'm going to lose my shit lol. I've never heard a 6th man (that's a 7th year vet) getting so much publicity before. I get that you're probably trying to boost his trade value, and he seems to be having a fine season, but come on now haha.BizGilwalker wrote:I'm actually amazed with being #1 right now. We've been playing at breakneck speed, have had a ton of minor injuries, and a number of our guys have struggled with their shots. I credit Brandon Knight for his stellar start. He's basically been a mini-Harden out there.
Love seeing advanced stats on here. Thanks for that Andrei
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I'll shut up and let his numbers talk for me thenGreenBear wrote:If I hear Brandon Knight's name mentioned one more time, I'm going to lose my shit lol. I've never heard a 6th man (that's a 7th year vet) getting so much publicity before. I get that you're probably trying to boost his trade value, and he seems to be having a fine season, but come on now haha.BizGilwalker wrote:I'm actually amazed with being #1 right now. We've been playing at breakneck speed, have had a ton of minor injuries, and a number of our guys have struggled with their shots. I credit Brandon Knight for his stellar start. He's basically been a mini-Harden out there.
Love seeing advanced stats on here. Thanks for that Andrei
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You had me until you called him "mini-Harden" hahaBizGilwalker wrote:I'll shut up and let his numbers talk for me thenGreenBear wrote:If I hear Brandon Knight's name mentioned one more time, I'm going to lose my shit lol. I've never heard a 6th man (that's a 7th year vet) getting so much publicity before. I get that you're probably trying to boost his trade value, and he seems to be having a fine season, but come on now haha.BizGilwalker wrote:I'm actually amazed with being #1 right now. We've been playing at breakneck speed, have had a ton of minor injuries, and a number of our guys have struggled with their shots. I credit Brandon Knight for his stellar start. He's basically been a mini-Harden out there.
Love seeing advanced stats on here. Thanks for that Andrei
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Great stuff her Andrei.
Interesting breakdown of the offensive differences between the CSL and NBA once you really look at the numbers. That CSL Minnesota line is awful though. WIth that team they should be doing better than they are.
Interesting breakdown of the offensive differences between the CSL and NBA once you really look at the numbers. That CSL Minnesota line is awful though. WIth that team they should be doing better than they are.
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At least we aren't in dead last...
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I've always been a fan of this one. Since we run a low-pace style of play, our advanced stats counts more than the pure number of points scored. I like where we are and there's still room for improvement.
Great article andrei! Love those advanced stats' stuff!
Great article andrei! Love those advanced stats' stuff!
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Didn't get a chance to comment on this, really cool article and I like how informative it is.
We have had a slow start to the season, hopefully the changes I made will increase our offensive efficiency. Time will tell.
We have had a slow start to the season, hopefully the changes I made will increase our offensive efficiency. Time will tell.
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awesome article
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Great read. Sucks im that far but we are a work in progress
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Lol we are dead last?
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