Power Rankings - Week 3

[PowerRankings]

Apologies to all but we're back with a new release. Time was no available to work on comments or offensive/defensive ranks this week but that should be available for future releases. We have created a new ranking system for these using a bunch of available statistics.

Please feel free to comment or provide information on how they may be improved. Enjoy!

--Rank--	--Team--	--Rating--	--Wins--	--Losses--	--Win%--	--WinsL10--	--LossesL10--
1	HoustonRockets	15.89	41	14	0.745	8	2
2	MiamiHeat	15.70	37	17	0.685	9	1
3	OklahomaCityThunder	15.60	40	16	0.714	7	3
4	DetroitPistons	15.54	41	12	0.774	6	4
5	BostonCeltics	15.36	41	13	0.759	8	2
6	AtlantaHawks	15.23	37	18	0.673	8	2
7	LosAngelesClippers	15.23	29	25	0.537	8	2
8	ClevelandCavaliers	15.10	34	23	0.596	6	4
9	MemphisGrizzlies	15.04	37	18	0.673	6	4
10	NewYorkKnicks	15.00	32	24	0.571	5	5
11	MinnesotaTimberwolves	14.95	33	23	0.589	7	3
12	WashingtonWizards	14.88	32	24	0.571	6	4
13	DenverNuggets	14.72	32	23	0.582	4	6
14	TorontoRaptors	14.65	25	29	0.463	8	2
15	IndianaPacers	14.59	30	25	0.545	4	6
16	CharlotteHornets	14.43	26	29	0.473	6	4
17	SanAntonioSpurs	14.22	23	32	0.418	4	6
18	ChicagoBulls	14.18	28	30	0.483	5	5
19	PortlandTrailblazers	14.16	24	30	0.444	5	5
20	SacramentoKings	13.95	22	34	0.393	6	4
21	PhoenixSuns	13.92	25	30	0.455	4	6
22	DallasMavericks	13.85	22	32	0.407	4	6
23	NewOrleansPelicans	13.73	23	31	0.426	2	8
24	GoldenStateWarriors	13.55	23	34	0.404	2	8
25	LosAngelesLakers	13.09	14	41	0.255	4	6
26	Philadelphia76ers	12.84	19	37	0.339	2	8
27	UtahJazz	12.80	19	35	0.352	3	7
28	OrlandoMagic	12.76	15	39	0.278	1	9
29	BrooklynNets	12.51	14	43	0.246	3	7
30	MilwaukeeBucks	11.49	8	45	0.151	2	8

[PowerRankings]

I am not sure how to fix the table showing so low in the post but it should not hinder anyone until someone can fix it.

[Rizzo]

I'm not sure how you derive the rankings but I can't be upset being in the 8th slot in the entire league!

[KW]

Interested what "Rating" means, but I can't argue with #1

[GreenBear]

Can't say I agree with us being ranked #21, considering we're the 7th seed in the West and we've played more away games than home games, and the Clippers are very overrated at #7, and I have no idea how the Spurs got put ahead of the Bulls hahaha... But it's just for fun. No big deal.

[GreenBear]

I also think the Celtics are underrated at #5. They're my pick to come out of the East.

[Marcos_Beck]

Well I like it a lot! That ratings system is interesting, hope you can find a way to add deg / off statistics to its formula, than PRs will be extremely accurate, IMO. And maybe some "starting 5" rating and "bench" rating (you can rate it 1-5 according to how you think a starting 5 / bench is good on paper. You just need to rate that once, just repeat for every week. It's subjective, and it gives rankings a little bit of "personal opinion" which I think is huge too.

Hope we can improve from that 18th spot

[PowerRankings]

I'm not sure how you derive the rankings but I can't be upset being in the 8th slot in the entire league!

Interested what "Rating" means, but I can't argue with #1

It is our own internal formula using team statistics. I won't divulge what it is as it will dampen the conversations about who is where.

Can't say I agree with us being ranked #21, considering we're the 7th seed in the West and we've played more away games than home games, and the Clippers are very overrated at #7, and I have no idea how the Spurs got put ahead of the Bulls hahaha... But it's just for fun. No big deal.

As with any power rankings, they weight current play. Clippers are 8-2 over their last 10 and won those games by over 12 points per game. 3rd best league wide over that span. Suns are 4-6 in their last 10 and have been outscored by 6 points per game over that span. Good for 8th worst league wide. That's not taking into account team statistics over the span either which may also sway things.

Bulls and Spurs are nearly identical in this run. Both 0.1 points, Spurs slightly tougher schedule, Bulls one more win (5 to 4). Very close statistically over this time.

I also think the Celtics are underrated at #5. They're my pick to come out of the East.

Houston, Miami, OKC and Detroit are all 9.7 plus over those games. Celtics at 7.1 but plenty of other factors into why they are slightly lower.

Well I like it a lot! That ratings system is interesting, hope you can find a way to add deg / off statistics to its formula, than PRs will be extremely accurate, IMO. And maybe some "starting 5" rating and "bench" rating (you can rate it 1-5 according to how you think a starting 5 / bench is good on paper. You just need to rate that once, just repeat for every week. It's subjective, and it gives rankings a little bit of "personal opinion" which I think is huge too.

Hope we can improve from that 18th spot

Offensive and defensive ranks are available now but not posted for the above. They will come in the next release. Again, internal ranking formula based on what we think is important.

Love the commentary discussing the order.

[Dennis]

I will fix the table as soon as Im home from work. Thanks for the work guys!

[Chilikonkarne]

Good indicator - we got #14 thanks to our streak of win. Hope we can get that spot with the calendar getting tougher

[Chilikonkarne]

Good indicator - we got #14 thanks to our streak of win. Hope we can get that spot with the calendar getting tougher

[OneNole]

interesting. very interesting formula. i kinda like it

[Dennis]

Good work! It's cool that your actually Performance is very important for a good Rank! I cant deny that Im actually not happy with our Performance. We didnt have a chance against Cleveland, have been Lucky against Denver and just escaped with an overtime win in Orlando.. We played very bad the last week.
Like already said in the Sim results thread we will throw away the Knicks game to make huge lineup changes. Parker as a sixth man might work better for us.

[emplep7]

Can't say I agree with us being ranked #21, considering we're the 7th seed in the West and we've played more away games than home games, and the Clippers are very overrated at #7, and I have no idea how the Spurs got put ahead of the Bulls hahaha... But it's just for fun. No big deal.

It seems like the last 10 games plays a pretty important role and with your team going 4-6 in that span, I'm guessing that is why you are lower than teams such as Sacramento, Portland, and San Antonio. If it were just based on overall record, then the power rankings would just be the in-game standings.

Agree with the Clippers being overrated at #7, but at 8-2 in the last 10, then I guess it makes sense.

[andrei]

wow, we dropped so low due to our poor performance in the last few games but I see I now have half of the team on the injured list so probably going to drop even more. Can't even talk smack about Houston anymore as I have no credibility left

[GreenBear]

I think these rankings put waaaay too much emphasis on the "last 10 games", and don't take everything into account. Does it take into account that 8 of my last 10 games are on the road? I highly doubt it. So naturally, I'm going to lose a few more games and give up some more points. I think a 4-6 record is solid considering 8 of the games were on the road.

[emplep7]

I think these rankings put waaaay too much emphasis on the "last 10 games", and don't take everything into account. Does it take into account that 8 of my last 10 games are on the road? I highly doubt it. So naturally, I'm going to lose a few more games and give up some more points. I think a 4-6 record is solid considering 8 of the games were on the road.

Yeah, I'm not sure what it takes into account, but I'm guessing there has to be some factor for the home vs away game that goes into the equation. Again though, its a weekly power ranking so its hard to get too upset over being ranked anywhere in these. If we were in the teens or twenties, then I would guess it has something to do with our Offensive/Defensive metrics for the week/month/year.

The NLL uses a similar statistic to rank the teams throughout the season so I wonder how close it is to that one, but typically the teams overall Road W-L record plays a very important role since teams who have the best record on the road typically go on to win the Championship. If it takes that into a account, then it could also hurt some teams that have may have a "better" overall record than the others who have a better road record. For example, maybe the Blazers 10-18 road record to your 8-20 was factored in, but again who knows and I'm guessing that only the PR team will ever know the exact formula.

[WillyJakkz]

As the GM of a rebuilding franchise full of young developing talent it is reading successful teams GM's argue/ debate about their ranking, the Power Rankings team's formula, and use of record in last 10 games vs home and away record.

Be glad you aren't mired in the bottom 3 for another entire season again but we'll be coming around soon, it's no fluke we took Boston to OT jk

Can't say I disagree one bit with the ratings and the Clippers are for real now, just thought I'd point that out.

And yeah Houston and Detroit are the class of the League, gonna take some real coaching to beat those guys.

[GreenBear]

Yeah, I'm not sure what it takes into account, but I'm guessing there has to be some factor for the home vs away game that goes into the equation. Again though, its a weekly power ranking so its hard to get too upset over being ranked anywhere in these. If we were in the teens or twenties, then I would guess it has something to do with our Offensive/Defensive metrics for the week/month/year.

The NLL uses a similar statistic to rank the teams throughout the season so I wonder how close it is to that one, but typically the teams overall Road W-L record plays a very important role since teams who have the best record on the road typically go on to win the Championship. If it takes that into a account, then it could also hurt some teams that have may have a "better" overall record than the others who have a better road record. For example, maybe the Blazers 10-18 road record to your 8-20 was factored in, but again who knows and I'm guessing that only the PR team will ever know the exact formula.

Yeah, as I said in my first post, it's just for fun. It doesn't matter. And I agree only the PR team will know the exact formula. I'm just opening it up for debate/discussion. But based upon the rankings and what the PR user said, it looks like it puts most of the weight on the last 10 games and the offensive/defensive metrics over those past 10 games. I could be wrong, but it doesn't sound like strength of opponent or amount of home/away games are taken into account much (if at all). For example, beyond just the fact that 8 of my past 10 games were on the road, 5 of my games came against teams ranked in the top 7. I'm not saying I blame them. Making a really complicated formula that takes all of that into account would probably take so much time. I'm just having a fun discussion. I think that's the whole point of even coming up with the power rankings.

[KW]

wow, we dropped so low due to our poor performance in the last few games but I see I now have half of the team on the injured list so probably going to drop even more. Can't even talk smack about Houston anymore as I have no credibility left

Ha! Sucks to be you!

I kid, I kid... maybe.