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5 Burning Questions
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We head south now in our 5 Burning Questions series, taking a path straight down the Atlantic coast to the Southeast Division. Easily the worst division in the CSL, the Southeast is looking like there will only be one winning team in the whole division this season. To be fair, none of the teams seem like they are hopeless, there are certainly paths for interesting futures for all five franchises.

Before we get started, we just want to note that this article series was inspired by a GM who has mentioned recently that the league is feeling dead, but hasn't done anything about it. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

1. Miami is the team with the brightest future, right?
When else have we seen a team with this collection of incredible picks? As of right now, they are projected to have the #1 slot in the lottery (Bucks), the #4 slot (their own pick), the #7 slot (Denver's), and the #15th slot (New York Knicks). That's an absolutely absurd number of high picks in one draft, and to add to that they are looking at roughly 20M in cap space if they decline all their team options and renounce all their expirings, which they will. They could easily trade away multiple draft picks for an all-star caliber player, and then also have one or two more chances at drafting a top notch young talent as well. The #4 pick alone, in a weak draft no less, got Denver Lance Stephenson and Tyler Ennis. What could #4 and #7 get Miami in a much more heralded draft?

So it's unquestionable that they have a bright future. I mean, it would take a massive failure to screw this up and not end up with a playoff contender in a few years. But do they have the brightest future? Do they have a brighter future than the Golden State Warriors, who boast some of the best of the past few drafts in Kris Dunn, Joel Embiid, and Cameron Payne, not to mention their own draft pick coming up? Do they look better moving forward than the Sacramento Kings, who still have the youngest contending team in the league by a country mile? What about the Indiana Pacers, who boast Karl Anthony-Towns, Draymond Green, George DePaula, and Mario Hezonja, all under the age of 23?

To be honest, I think this will be a "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" scenario, but Miami absolutely has to be considered one of the best teams in terms of potential moving forward.

2. Are there any CSL rotation-level players on the Atlanta Hawks roster?
The Atlanta Hawks have done a great job of tearing down the awful team they had last year, dumping bloated contracts, and turning them into young players that could grow with the franchise. However, like most teams in their situation, after the tear down they have been left with something hardly resembling a CSL roster, and unfortunately even the young top talent they have acquired hasn't looked so talented.

Before we get into the young guys, we should take a moment to acknowledge that the Hawks do have a number of veterans that have shown they have a role on a good team. The best one of the bunch is Danny Green, who's shooting ability and decent defense makes him a good fit with most teams around the league. Nikola Pekovic also still has some low post scoring ability and solid offensive rebounding. I'm not a fan of any of the other guys on their roster over the age of 25.

As for the U25s, it's much more of a mixed bag of players. There are a few that clearly don't belong in this league, Tyler Johnson (a scorer who can't seem to put the ball in the bucket very well), DeAndre Bembry (has some hope to be a jack of all trades, but doesn't look to be above average in any one skill), and JaMychal Green (see Bembry). Joffrey Lauvergne is an interesting player, as I personally am not a fan of what it looks like he's going to become, but there's a chance he gets good enough to be a rotation quality player. He's a score first big man, albeit on middling efficiency, but plays absolutely no defense and is a slightly above average rebounder at best. Bobby Portis is a really intriguing young big man, as he's the jack of all trades that is actually good at most skills, but he doesn't have any single elite skill and doesn't shoot well enough to justify his lack of elite rebounding, or defense, or foul drawing, or anything that would differentiate him from the rest of the league. A good guy to have, but probably not a real impact player.

The last group and the one we certainly hope to find a future CSL starter in is the three rookies. Unfortunately, while Domantas Sabonis came into the draft looking like he could develop into a scoring big men with few true weaknesses, it looks like that ceiling won't be reached. I wouldn't be surprised to see him out of the league by the end of his rookie deal, as he quite frankly just looks lost on the court. His best case scenario is that he could be used as a situation stretch big. D'Angelo Russell is looking like a bust as well, as he came into the league boasting a scoring mentality and a point guard skill set, but he really seems to be hitting the minimums on both of those categories. His passing and handle are what I'd consider acceptable as a point guard, and his bag of tricks offensively will make him a decent scorer, but not a game changing one. His best case scenario most likely will be as a 6th man shooting guard, where he can be hidden defensively and he can use his best skill to his advantage against bench units.

So then we get down to our final hope for a future CSL starter on this Hawks team, and that's in the player everyone wanted to draft in defensive superstar Justise Winslow. Amazingly, somehow, his defensive skills were not overhyped coming into the draft. He's already up there with Okaro White and Otto Porter in terms of raw defensive talent, and while he has some work to do in getting to be an elite CSL defender (only stopping 76% of drives right now), he is already showing that he can make an impact on that end (2.1 steals per game, 1.2 blocks, 0.85 PA/SF). The problem is, he's just as bad offensively as he is good defensively. He's pretty awful with taking care of the ball, and he simply cannot make any kind of bucket outside of the lane. If he can rein in his offense and understand to only shoot when close to the basket, and can find a way to be able to get to the basket without turning the ball over on his way there, then he will become a real quality CSL starter, and not a defensive specialist. That right there is the Hawks best hope at a future CSL player.

3. Do the Wizards have anyone worth building around?
Pretty similar question here for Washington as what the Hawks are facing, but at the next step of the rebuilding process. The Hawks need to know if they have anyone worth keeping on the roster at all, the Wizards need to find out if they have the guy to start building their team around. They certainly have a decent rotation already in place should they find their star, with floor general Bryce Cotton, inside scorer Jonas Valanciunas (though it remains to be seen if he's truly a starter), and "rebounding god" Tyler Stone. All three of these guys are quality players for Washington, though no one would ever confuse them with being a star.

So where could their star come from? The Wizards have quite a few young players who are still growing into their game, as they have been very shrewd on the trade market and made smart, calculated moves. Over the past year or so, they've acquired Trevor Lacey, Gary Harris, Larry Nance Jr, and a number of other teams draft picks that led to players like Guerschon Yabuesele and Briante Weber. For a few of these players, it's clear they won't be anything more than a rotational player, which isn't a bad thing, but it's not what we are looking for here. Trevor Lacey has shown an ability to make 3 point shots (career 37% from deep) but he doesn't take enough shots, and he does a lot of good things defensively but he's not a real game changer on the defensive end. Nance Jr. shows an ability to be a decent rebounder, a decent defender, and a well rounded offensive game, but again, not aggressive enough on either end to ever be a star. Weber has defensive star written all over him, in fact, his defense alone is in the class of Kemba Walker, Eric Bledsoe, and Ricky Rubio. That's all he knows how to do though, as his offense is atrocious. Yabuesele is everything I said about Nance Jr., except more of an inside focused offensive game. Lastly, there's Tyus Jones, who looks really similar to the aforementioned D'Angelo Russell. At best, he could be a backup combo guard, perhaps a fifth starter on a good team. Not really building block material here so far.

After that group of players, there are three guys who have a little bit more of a chance of becoming a foundation player. The least likely of the three is Ivica Zubac, the Wizards rookie center. The scouts say he's got a lot of potential left, and while my scouts don't see a future star, there's always more variation when a player is shown with a lot of potential, so our team could just be very off on him. His best case scenario is a better Valancunias, someone with the inside scoring ability to get up a lot of good shots, and Zubac should become more efficient as time goes on. I'm not betting any money on this happening, but I have to acknowledge that there's a chance. My next bet would be on Gary Harris, a two way guard who makes a real difference on both ends of the court. Defensively, he's great at keeping his man in front of him and making their life difficult, and he has quick hands to get steals, though the Wizards zone defense makes it less likely for him to make those turnovers. On the offensive end, he's got a great perimeter offensive game, but he struggles to finish inside and can sometimes be too passive, too willing to look for his teammates when he needs to be the one to take the shot. He's a great player, and will be a good #3/#4 on a contending team, but he's not a star.

The only hope the Wizards have of finding that star on their own team is none other than forward TJ Warren, a kid with incredible scoring talent. He's got offensive moves for days, whether that's using his size to work in the post, using his athleticism to attack the rim, or using his great mid range jumper to punish sagging defenses. Sure, he doesn't have the greatest all around game, he's poor defensively, he won't ever get that many assists, but this game has always been, and will always be, about getting buckets. Some of the best teams in the history of the game have been built around great scorers who relied on the rest of their team to pick up the slack elsewhere. Allen Iverson and the 76ers, for example, or more appropriately, a team like the 2011 Dallas Mavericks, led by Dirk Nowitzki, who scored like a madman, but was the worst defender and, at best, an average rebounder. Warren has those kinds of skills, but has never gotten enough minutes to show that he can score over 20 points per game.

In all honesty though, Warren is ultimately probably not that guy. While he does have an array of scoring moves, he can't shoot the three pointer at all, and he's a poor free throw shooter, and also doesn't get to the free throw line enough to put his opponents in foul trouble either. He is a great scorer off the bench, and is also the type of player that bad teams could use so they can still stay respectable and keep fans in seats, but he's not a star that a playoff team can build around. It's sad to say with all the youth on the Wizards, but they are still searching for their star.

4. Why can't Charlotte win games?
Going from a team searching for their star, to a team who has found their star, Charlotte should absolutely be better than they are performing, in large part due to the fact that they already have a solid core in All Star Andrew Wiggins, 3 point marksman Bradley Beal, and two way big man Derrick Favors. They shoot well as a team, are one of the best three point shooting teams in the league, and are a top 10 team in the league in blocks per game. So what's going on?

Well... a whole lot actually. Let's start with the on-court stuff. They can shoot, but they can't do much else on offense. Well, more accurately, they can't take care of the ball at all on offense. They are 5th worst in the league in turnovers per game, just barely ahead of the Warriors and the Heat, two of the worst teams in the league. They are "led" by Kyle Lowry at 4.1 turnovers per game, but Wiggins, Favors, and Juwan Staten also cough up the ball at least two times per game each as well. Their defense is pretty bad; they are 23rd in the league in opponent field goal percentage (46.1%) and 24th in opponent three point percentage (39.2%). They are also lacking depth in a bad way, as after their top 4 (Wiggins, Beal, Favors, Lowry), they are playing guys like Staten, Frank Kaminsky (more on him in a minute), Jon Leuer, and Kevin Seraphin, all players who are very flawed and shouldn't be playing heavy minutes for a team that could be a playoff contender based on their top four players.

What's worse than that is their front office seems to have gone AWOL. Kaminsky tore his achilles on January 19th, yet here we are, 10 games later, and they haven't adjusted their rotation at all. The general manager hasn't been seen or heard from publicly in a month and a half, which was when Kaminsky was traded for, and the league office hasn't heard at all from Charlotte either in three weeks. Charlotte needs some guidance, and they aren't getting it, leading to lackluster on-court performance.

5. Speaking of top-heavy teams, how much longer can Orlando keep this up?
If we thought Charlotte's depth situation was bad, we shouldn't even look into the Orlando depth issue, as it is troubling. They have one of the best players in the league in Paul George, two more top end talents in DeMarcus Cousins and Brook Lopez, and then it all falls off a cliff with the rest of the roster. It's not completely barren; Robert Covington is a pretty good defensive player who can make open shots (though I wish he would shoot more 3s), Rajon Rondo is one of the best defensive point guards in the league and still has some of his old playmaking wizardry, and Marquese Chriss looks like he could be a low-end starter one day.

They have some seriously troubling issues moving forward, starting with their lack of their own draft pick this year (set to be a late pick, but that's still one fewer cost controlled young talent on the roster), but most importantly, their cap situation moving forward. If they don't make a single move, and renounce all of their expiring contracts, they will be over the hard cap next season with 8 players under contract. They are set to have 92M in guaranteed salaries, which puts them 2M over the hard cap with at least four slots to fill. If that happens, they forfeit a first round pick. The easiest way for them to get out of the hard cap will be to decline Brook Lopez's option for 19M, but they will almost certainly not have enough wiggle room under the hard cap to bring him back and fill out a full roster, as Lopez will undoubtedly earn 8 figures on the open market. The best way they could create cap room would be to get off of Taj Gibson's salary, as he's set to make nearly 10M next year despite being absolute trash on the court. They would have to give up an asset to get another team to take on Gibson, and for an asset strapped team like the Magic, that leaves either Chriss, Covington, or a first round pick to be given up in order to get out of cap hell. That's not ideal either.

Finally, if they decide it's time to completely rework the roster but try and hang on to their two stars, George and Cousins, that still leaves a bit of a difficult task for them. First, George and Cousins are under contract for three more seasons at a combined 40M+ every year, meaning they will never have enough cap room to build a real team around them. Second, they have very little in the way of trade assets. If they are going to move Lopez, they need to move him by the deadline, and thanks to how they have used him this season, his value is at an all time low. Rondo has a negative trade value, and giving up Covington or Chriss defeats the purpose, but not only that they would have to attach a large salary to one of those to make the trade worth it for the Magic, and as we've stated before, none of their large contracts are all that appealing to other teams in the league. Best case scenario would be they could move one of those two and Lopez for some talented players on long term contracts: perhaps moving Lopez and Chriss for three rotation players who combine to make Lopez's 20M salary.

Ultimately, they will reach the fork in the road soon when they will have no choice but to make a decision in how to proceed with the franchise. At that time, we will see how WillyJakkz handles it, but for me, I think the best thing to do will be to deal anything they can, including George and Cousins, to acquire as many assets as possible to start their rebuild. And to be quite frank, I think that will need to happen this summer. If it were me running it in Orlando, I'd make as many win now moves as I could for this one last stand (without giving up Covington or Chriss), and then win or lose, sell everything possible come the offseason.

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This is by far the worst division in the league and I don't see it getting any better anytime soon. The Magic are solid as long as they have George, but their window is closing if they don't make major moves starting as soon as next year. The Wizards are young, but don't have that guy they can build around, the Heat are a a jumbled mess that is putting all of their eggs into the draft basket, which is a major crap shoot, the Hornets have talent and should be in the playoffs, but need some serious work, and the Hawks just need as much help as possible.

I do still like Winslow and would love to try to fix him offensively and think Russell has potential, but the rest of them are just back end of the bench players.

It will be cool to look at this post a couple seasons from now to see what has changed.
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This series is really good, I agree with most of your assessments though I think Gary Harris has the potential to be a star given his play on both ends and his youth. Miami's future is contingent on this draft class - if it's a strong class the Heat could end up being the most dangerous team in the league in a few seasons. Charlotte has a very talented roster, and should be a playoff team as early as next season - Wiggins/Beal/Favors is a formidable trio and they're all pretty young. Orlando surprises me every season, George is the best player in the league given how he's carried that team. I'd keep Cousins and try and move Lopez for a few pieces to balance out the roster. Good stuff here.
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blackice wrote:This series is really good, I agree with most of your assessments though I think Gary Harris has the potential to be a star given his play on both ends and his youth. Miami's future is contingent on this draft class - if it's a strong class the Heat could end up being the most dangerous team in the league in a few seasons. Charlotte has a very talented roster, and should be a playoff team as early as next season - Wiggins/Beal/Favors is a formidable trio and they're all pretty young. Orlando surprises me every season, George is the best player in the league given how he's carried that team. I'd keep Cousins and try and move Lopez for a few pieces to balance out the roster. Good stuff here.
I think Charlotte is on the way down and not up, and it will take more effort from Riot than we have seen previously to get that to happen.

As for Gary Harris, I don't see how he gets meaningfully above 16 ppg and I don't think he will be able to be counted on as the #1 option offensively in the playoffs. That's why I hesitate to call him a star though I certainly like him the most out of this whole roster.

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Good write up and series. It's fun to read someone else's views on every team in the league.

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Good read man, some very thoughtful assessments on this boo boo division here. Hopefully we can find that number one guy soon, or maybe we can grow into a team where we can play great team ball. We shall see what happens.
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Awesome read. #freelopez

Just some comments. Orlando seem oddly balanced to me which probably is a reason why it is not working as well as hoped.

For Washington I do not think they have a star yet but a solid bunch of players. It is very much a case of sitting and waiting for one to become available.
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Cleasby wrote:Awesome read. #freelopez

Just some comments. Orlando seem oddly balanced to me which probably is a reason why it is not working as well as hoped.

For Washington I do not think they have a star yet but a solid bunch of players. It is very much a case of sitting and waiting for one to become available.
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Great read, after being stagnant earlier this season due to work we're actually starting to hit the phones but if we stand pat so be it.

Saving Lopez Cuz frontcourt hopefully for the PO's for a different look so no one gets used to seeing it on-season and also saving his and Cuz's legs thru the yr.

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WillyJakkz wrote:Great read, after being stagnant earlier this season due to work we're actually starting to hit the phones but if we stand pat so be it.

Saving Lopez Cuz frontcourt hopefully for the PO's for a different look so no one gets used to seeing it on-season and also saving his and Cuz's legs thru the yr.
So as far as your contract situation is concerned, you're going to go for it this season and then deal with your situation in the offseason?

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Great stuff, real in depth.

Miami at a crossroads for mine. Could end up like the Sixers or the Warriors but could also come out of this the other end too with the right moves. I'm sure they know the value of draft picks around draft time so will be interesting.

Hawks have more direction than the Wizards at the moment. They're bottoming out at least and will build from there even if it takes a while. Wizards are kind of in no mans land and I can't see a way for them to get out of it... at the moment anyway.

Charlotte needs a better GM as they shouldn't be this bad and Willy's love of his big guns is hurting the franchise. George is a star but overrating Cousins has hampered the Magic. Depends what they want I guess as keep them together and they'll always be solid but be playoff fodder for the better eastern teams each season.
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Great series. Orlando should liaise with Washington to find a deal which would arrange both team. Cousins would look good as a Wizard
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emplep7 wrote:This is by far the worst division in the league and I don't see it getting any better anytime soon. The Magic are solid as long as they have George, but their window is closing if they don't make major moves starting as soon as next year. The Wizards are young, but don't have that guy they can build around, the Heat are a a jumbled mess that is putting all of their eggs into the draft basket, which is a major crap shoot, the Hornets have talent and should be in the playoffs, but need some serious work, and the Hawks just need as much help as possible.

I do still like Winslow and would love to try to fix him offensively and think Russell has potential, but the rest of them are just back end of the bench players.

It will be cool to look at this post a couple seasons from now to see what has changed.
Agree with most of this. Heat are in a situation similar to where I was a couple seasons ago. Their picks aren't quite as good but they are loaded with them. I'd still rather be in GSWs shoes though.

I think Orlando is a mess right now and needs to find a homerun trade to fix it before their window closes.

Wizards have a ton of young talent just need to find that guy and continue to make good small trades.
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