Cousins

Post by **andrei** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:57 am

SAC: Is Vlade a genius or NuggOlesk? I follow NBA on Yahoo mostly and they talk a lot about Cousins value being super low. He is a top10 player in NBA easily but his antics are scary for any team. It's no coincidence that even with decent players like Gay, the Kings were still in the lottery all these years. Despite his talent, DMC can't produce wins.

NOP: I know people talk about how little they paid for him but I can imagine a scenario where they end up being losers in the deal. How is he going to play next to AD where he is clearly the second fiddle. There has never been a player in Sacramento who is better than him so, knowing the kind of locker room cancer that he is, how is he going to handle it?

Cousins: this may be the beginning of the end of his All-Star days. If he does not work out, he is going to turn into Rondo - excellent player but just too much baggage to be worth any investment. Really can't understand how he can be like that - he was up for a major pay rise this offseason...

Post by **Chilikonkarne** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:34 am

Cousins is clearly not producing as many wins his talent should but he is not the only responsible of the Sacramento Kings mediocrity.
I am sure he would thrilled in great organization like Spurs or Celtics. Not sure though about the Pelicans.
Anyway, the value paid by NOP is clearly worth the risk! Really bad move by Divac in my opinion

Post by **Rizzo** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:50 am

I don't care what his attitude is like: getting Cousins for almost nothing is a win for the Pelicans. Clearly Sacramento was done with him and wanted him gone. I have to imagine Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens just did not want him on the Celtics or else we could have blown that deal out of the water.

Post by **andrei** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:01 pm

I'd say attitude is very important - this is NBA not CSL, where a player like Cousins may make or break a team. At this stage I'd say its 50% make or break

Post by **OneNole** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:09 pm

No chance he works in new orleans. The only team i can see cousins working in would be san antonio or cleveland. I would rather new orleans have tanked the rest of the year and hopefully finally hit on a lotto pick than bring in cousins

lakeshowak7 · Post by **lakeshowak7** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:42 pm

No change he resigns during the season so not only does he have his baggage, but he's also currently a rental. That had a lot to do with his value as well.

Post by **wms02a** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:19 pm

OneNole wrote:No chance he works in new orleans. The only team i can see cousins working in would be san antonio or cleveland. I would rather new orleans have tanked the rest of the year and hopefully finally hit on a lotto pick than bring in cousins

I think there is a chance it can work. NOH is the closest team to being a the Hometown Team for Boogie as he lives just 2 hours away from NO and I think we cannot understate the Kentucky connection between him and AD. Jrue will be the first real PG Boogie has played with in the NBA. I think this could be a real good fit depending on whom they place around Jrue (hopefully he now resigns this offseason), AD, and Boogie.

Post by **Myles** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:28 pm

I love that the Kings are obsessed with young mediocre SGs. In the last decade, they have drafted Jimmer Fredette, Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas, and Malachi Richardson to fill the SG void. Now Buddy Hield will fill that slot.

Ocons · Post by **Ocons** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:35 pm

and here I thought the CSL was a bunch of manipulators and liars. . . can't even count the number of quotes and articles I read yesterday on Vlade and Sacto being adamant that DeMarcus wasn't going anywhere - even though it's been painfully obvious that there was no other choice.

I did read this article on Bleacher Report the other day (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691 ... l-nba-team) and thought it was good timing. Say what you will about Calipari but the guy knows his shit. Do the NOP fit this mold?

BR: What do you think is the ideal NBA situation for DeMarcus? Coach, team, circumstances, all of it.

Calipari: First of all, it's gotta be an organization and a coach he respects. And it's gotta be an organization and a coach that are not afraid to coach him, that are not afraid of him, that want to coach him and make him be the best. And then it's a situation where you can win.

Now would he have to be the main guy? No, but he'd have to be one of those two. It'd be him and somebody else, and he'd have to accept what the other guy is, and take great joy in—let me say this!—John Wall's success. Or Eric Bledsoe's success. He did it here. If it's that kind of environment, yeah. And I think USA Basketball proved that. It did. But he's gotta really respect what's going on.

The problem with my guys, all my guys, they come in and improve themselves so fast in college, they go from He's this and this to That kid is the first pick or second pick. Four. Five. Seven. Tell me about those teams: not great. So my guys are walking into bad situations. And those teams are lottery picks for a reason. It's not just their players or their coaches—it's the organization doesn't get it right.

Post by **drumr** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:07 pm

Man I'm pulling for NO to get respectable and do this right. Davis/Cousins don't even need a true PG. Get them boys shooters try to talk CP3 into coming back (he's a FA soon?) And that team will manhandle any front line.

Post by **drumr** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:09 pm

You guys are crazy if you don't think Boogie takes the money. No one turns down 200+ million. No. One.

Post by **andrei** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:10 pm

drumr wrote:Man I'm pulling for NO to get respectable and do this right. Davis/Cousins don't even need a true PG. Get them boys shooters try to talk CP3 into coming back (he's a FA soon?) And that team will manhandle any front line.

Didn't they say the same thing about Howard/Gasol and it didn't work out even when they were playing together...

Mattybriand · Post by **Mattybriand** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:11 pm

drumr wrote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Boogie takes the money. No one turns down 200+ million. No. One.

New CBA is weird I don't think he's eligible for "super max" now...

Also Kevin Durant is a great example of someone leaving money on the table...

With all that being said I don't think cousins would leave money on the table...

Post by **drumr** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:13 pm

That was all D'Antoni. I watched every single game that season. When the players finally started ignoring him and running what they wanted (triangle dual post sets) the team went on a tear Kobe put up insane assist numbers and we got into the playoffs. Jackass tried to make Pau a jump shooter.

Post by **wms02a** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:13 pm

andrei wrote:
drumr wrote:Man I'm pulling for NO to get respectable and do this right. Davis/Cousins don't even need a true PG. Get them boys shooters try to talk CP3 into coming back (he's a FA soon?) And that team will manhandle any front line.
Didn't they say the same thing about Howard/Gasol and it didn't work out even when they were playing together...

AD/Boogie are way more versatile than Howard/Gasol. Both bigmen can play back to he basket and all the way to three point line. Howard/Gasol were not as versatile

Post by **drumr** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:13 pm

Mattybriand wrote:
drumr wrote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Boogie takes the money. No one turns down 200+ million. No. One.

New CBA is weird I don't think he's eligible for "super max" now...

Also Kevin Durant is a great example of someone leaving money on the table...

With all the being said I don't think cousins would leave money on the table...

Everything I know about boogie off the court he loves his money

Post by **drumr** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:14 pm

wms02a wrote:
andrei wrote:
drumr wrote:Man I'm pulling for NO to get respectable and do this right. Davis/Cousins don't even need a true PG. Get them boys shooters try to talk CP3 into coming back (he's a FA soon?) And that team will manhandle any front line.
Didn't they say the same thing about Howard/Gasol and it didn't work out even when they were playing together...
AD/Boogie are way more versatile than Howard/Gasol. Both bigmen can play back to he basket and all the way to three point line. Howard/Gasol were not as versatile

This

8time · Post by **8time** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:16 pm

Man I feel bad for Anthony Davis.

stelfair333 · Post by **stelfair333** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:20 pm

Cousins could only get the super max extension with the Kings. He lost quite a bit of money getting traded to the Pelicans. I think it might be able to work tho. Low risk high reward for New Orleans. Traded spare parts to get him, if it doesn't work out, let him walk. If it does, try your hardest to resign him. Brilliant move by the Pelicans.

lakeshowak7 · Post by **lakeshowak7** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:41 pm

drumr wrote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Boogie takes the money. No one turns down 200+ million. No. One.

He's not eligible for the super max anymore so he's signing the same exact deal in NOLA or any where else I believe.

I know he lost out on over $30 million by being traded.

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